The Ultimate Indian Motocycle Hybrid, the marriage of a vintage Scout frame with a Chief engine!
The Alchemist
The essence of motocycle, picture a rigid framed vintage roadracer, leaf sprung fork, single pan saddle, hand gearchange, foot clutch, left hand throttle and the biggest production Indian engine of the time shoehorned into the best handling Indian frame of All time! A true hotrod, the looks of a stripped down wall bike on steroids!
Saturday, 2 October 2010
The Forks
Not got these yet, still saving up!!!! reproduction Indian 101 fork from Hecker 101 via IPE
Great and very interesting project Steve! I really hope you take a lot of pictures on the frame repairs and modifications. Another thought before the frame mods is done, as you got new and fresh cast iron and there is a lot of room in the engine for shorter rods and pistons with high positioned wristpin, whatabout shortening the barrels and make deep spigots (relocate the base), I think original stroke would fit lowered barrels with said changes but with 4.25 or 4.1/2 in stroke you could get a revvier peppier engine that would suit the light 101 just fine? Methanol or maybe E85 may allow the use of short fin heads that may fit the 101 frame without or just minor mods and a later developement could involve an AISIN 300 blower on top of that would put back grunt in spades. That'll be a first true chout engine and a probably great business opportunity!
Thanks Charlie, I'll be taking lots of pictures as we go, especially of the frame mods, have a look at the Chout Breeders Blog linked from the Chout Links panel, Grizzy has done some sketches of the various frame mods used.
My second motor the '33 might be a good candidate for this kind of modification as the cylinders need a lot of work (or replacement)it also has the advantage of using the earlier, shorter heads already. My 1940 motor is already buttoned up so I'm less inclined to pull it apart again. I am tempted by the idea of a small blower, have you tried one on an Indian motor?
Oh I read all Indian stuff I can find on the net and have seen much uglier solutions than Grizzy sketched! Sorry to say I have yet to fit a blower to my 101. Aussie Ebay prices double since Lars went public with his Saltcracker! There's another interesting Dane that likes blowing up small engines. .elsberg-tuning.dk Per Uselius from Uppsala in Sweden built the stunning shiny short frame Chout (with number 27 plate) you quested about. Later he built a top notch Sport Scout as well, but I don't know more. Most parts built by himself. I think he fitted a SEM or BTH racing magneto instead of the bulky (F.ugly) sidemounted Hunt or Morris. Jap. dual leading shoe front brake and a full hub rear with cushion. A problem he had was that the petrol was boiling in the tank. Another was the low handlebars that put his private parts in nothing short of a predicament.(He should have cut a hole in the seat for his schlang, as Lars did ;-)) The hot Chief heads are too close to the tank and todays concoctions have considerable lower boiling point as it is designed for EFI use. Double walls with some kind of insulation would sort that out.
Great and very interesting project Steve! I really hope you take a lot of pictures on the frame repairs and modifications. Another thought before the frame mods is done, as you got new and fresh cast iron and there is a lot of room in the engine for shorter rods and pistons with high positioned wristpin, whatabout shortening the barrels and make deep spigots (relocate the base), I think original stroke would fit lowered barrels with said changes but with 4.25 or 4.1/2 in stroke you could get a revvier peppier engine that would suit the light 101 just fine? Methanol or maybe E85 may allow the use of short fin heads that may fit the 101 frame without or just minor mods and a later developement could involve an AISIN 300 blower on top of that would put back grunt in spades. That'll be a first true chout engine and a probably great business opportunity!
ReplyDeleteThanks Charlie,
ReplyDeleteI'll be taking lots of pictures as we go, especially of the frame mods, have a look at the Chout Breeders Blog linked from the Chout Links panel, Grizzy has done some sketches of the various frame mods used.
My second motor the '33 might be a good candidate for this kind of modification as the cylinders need a lot of work (or replacement)it also has the advantage of using the earlier, shorter heads already. My 1940 motor is already buttoned up so I'm less inclined to pull it apart again. I am tempted by the idea of a small blower, have you tried one on an Indian motor?
Oh I read all Indian stuff I can find on the net and have seen much uglier solutions than Grizzy sketched! Sorry to say I have yet to fit a blower to my 101. Aussie Ebay prices double since Lars went public with his Saltcracker! There's another interesting Dane that likes blowing up small engines. .elsberg-tuning.dk
ReplyDeletePer Uselius from Uppsala in Sweden built the stunning shiny short frame Chout (with number 27 plate) you quested about. Later he built a top notch Sport Scout as well, but I don't know more. Most parts built by himself. I think he fitted a SEM or BTH racing magneto instead of the bulky (F.ugly) sidemounted Hunt or Morris. Jap. dual leading shoe front brake and a full hub rear with cushion. A problem he had was that the petrol was boiling in the tank. Another was the low handlebars that put his private parts in nothing short of a predicament.(He should have cut a hole in the seat for his schlang, as Lars did ;-)) The hot Chief heads are too close to the tank and todays concoctions have considerable lower boiling point as it is designed for EFI use. Double walls with some kind of insulation would sort that out.